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The Tonight Show 
October 6, 1970

GUESTS

Bette Midler, Sandy Baron, Carol Channing,
James Whitmore

PROGRAM TIME

11:30 p.m. to 1:00 a.m.

INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT

The footage from this appearance apparently no longer exists.  However, an audio recording made from the television broadcast does remain.  Although that recording can not be shared here on this website, below you will find a written transcript from this appearance documenting what was said and performed during this show.

Johnny Carson

And this gal right now was a guest on our show a couple of months ago, and she, as they say, broke up the place. She will be opening at Mr. Kelly's in Chicago on October 12th.  Last time she was here she sang a song from the 30's, which I think she would really have rather lived in, the 30's.

Ed McMahon

She would like to be Mae West, I think.

Johnny Carson

Yeah.  She's gonna do a song now from the 50's.  But I have a feeling it's gonna come out . . . 

Ed McMahon

Like the 30's.

Johnny Carson

Like the 30's.  I don't know why.

Ed McMahon

 

And she's strangely exciting.

Johnny Carson

Strangely exciting.  Ah yes.  Would you welcome, Bette Midler.

Bette Midler

Sh-Boom
(James Keyes, Carl Feaster, Floyd McRae, Claude Feaster, and James W. Edwards)

Hey, nonny, ding, dong
Alang, alang, alang
Boom ba-da, ba-doo, ba-doo, ba-day

Oh, life could be a dream
If I could take you up to paradise up above
If you would tell me I'm the only one that you love
Life could be a dream, sweetheart

Hello, hello, again
Sh-boom and hoping we'll meet again

Life could be a dream
If only all my precious plans would come true
If you would let me spend my whole life loving you
Life could be a dream, sweetheart

Oh, every time I look at you
Something is on my mind
If you do what I want you to
Oh, wouldn't that be fine

Life could be a dream
If I could take you up to paradise up above
If you would tell me that I'm the only one that you love
Life could be a dream, sweetheart

Oh, let's all sing together now

Sh-boom, sh-boom 
Ya-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Sh-boom, sh-boom 
Ya-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Sh-boom, sh-boom 
Ya-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Sh-boom, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-OWWWWWWW

Every time I look at you
Whoa, something is on my mind
If you do what I want you to
Owwww, wouldn't that be just be fine

Life could be a dream
If I could take you up to paradise up above
If you would tell me that I'm the only one that you love
Life, oh life could be a dream, sweetheart

Oh let me sing it for ya

Sh-Boom, sh-boom
Ya dot-n-da-da
Boom, boom, boom-boom-boom 
Ya dot-n-da-da 
Boom, ba-boom 
Ya dot-n-da-da
Boom, ah
Boom, ah 
Boom ba-boom, ah

Johnny Carson

Ohhh, by golly!

Bette Midler

Oh, my nerves.

Johnny Carson

Lawsy me!  Everything about you is from the 30's.

Bette Midler

Yes.

Johnny Carson

38 . . . 39 . . . jeez!

Bette Midler

Hello.

Johnny Carson

How are you?

Bette Midler

I'm very well. Thank you.

Johnny Carson

Ahhh, that was a great song.

Bette Midler

Oh, a great song. Did you like it, really?

Johnny Carson

Yes, I love that type of thing.

Bette Midler

Ah.

Johnny Carson

Really, I like that old type of . . . what is it?

Ed McMahon

Excuse me I have to go back and sell a SERTA mattress.

Bette Midler

Oh!

Johnny Carson

Ooooookay.

Bette Midler

Oh, he's the lucky one.

Johnny Carson

Isn't he . . . how have you been?

Bette Midler

I've been very well, thank you, and yourself?

Johnny Carson

By golly . . . 

Bette Midler

So what's happening?

Johnny Carson

Not much, we're just here every night, ya know.

Bette Midler

Yes.

Johnny Carson

How's your career going?

Bette Midler

Oh my career is just . . . 

Johnny Carson

Zooming along?

Bette Midler

Just zooming.  It's going at a swell, actually it's coming along very well.

Johnny Carson

Is it?

Bette Midler

To be quite serious, yeah.  I finally got booked into a real live nightclub.

Johnny Carson

Yeah.

Bette Midler

A real grown-up type nightclub.

Johnny Carson

We'll come back and talk about that kooky job you had before.

Bette Midler

(Laughs) 


[COMMERCIAL BREAK]


Johnny Carson

We're back. We're talking with Bette. Why do you pronounce it Bet?

Bette Midler

Bet, why?

Johnny Carson

It's B-E-T-T-E

Bette Midler

Well, my mother named me after Bette Davis, and that's the way she pronounced it.

Johnny Carson

She did?

Bette Midler

My mother pronounced it.  I don't know how Bette Davis pronounces it. I suspect she pronounces it Bet. But my mother pronounced it Bet, so by God, that's what it was.

Johnny Carson

Well, that's the important thing.

Bette Midler

Yes.

Johnny Carson

Now about this job you had. Did people believe you when you said that you were working in a steam bath somewhere?

Bette Midler

You know, it was really amazing the response I got on the last show I was on.

Johnny Carson

Really?

Bette Midler

Yeah, because a lot of people called me up who hadn't seen me in a number of months or so, and they said, "man, where did you get that story about working the steam bath?"
And I said, "that was not a story that's the truth."  I was really surprised at the number of people who didn't believe me.  You know, it really hurt my feelings.  I wouldn't lie. To Tell The Truth called up the place where I was working and they said, "we understand you have a girl who sings in the Bath, in the steam room."  And when they found out that I was not actually singing while the steam was going on, they lost interest.

Johnny Carson

They wanted you right in the steam?

Bette Midler

Yes, they wanted me in the "steam room," you see.

Johnny Carson

Well, that's asking too much.

Bette Midler

Well, that's a little much, in the ROOM!  Ya know, it wasn't enough that it was in the health club itself, it had to be in the steam room.

Johnny Carson

I think that's novel enough.

Bette Midler

Well, whad'ya know, speak to To Tell The Truth.

Johnny Carson

Now you're going to Mr. Kelly's from a steam room, that's a pretty good jump.

Bette Midler

Yes. (laughs)

Johnny Carson

On that road to rocket to stardom.

Bette Midler

Is that what it is?

Johnny Carson

I don't know.

Bette Midler

Oh my.  Well, let's hope something happens.  I'm having a good time though.

Johnny Carson

Have you ever played that kind of a club, Mr. Kelly's?

Bette Midler

Well, I've never been in a place that is as pretty as that. I've been told that it's a beautiful room.  I played a room in Boston once, about 6 months ago.  It was one of the low points of my career, I dare say.  The money was really horrendous and it was a very miserable week for me because I had no friends in Boston.  I was utterly alone.  And the money was so bad that my manager, got me a room in this girls dormitory, the Emerson College Girls Dormitory, which would of been ok, ya know, I wouldn't of minded except that . . . 

Johnny Carson

That's where you stayed?  

Bette Midler

That's where I stayed the whole week, but I was the only person in the whole dormitory.  Ya know, because it was like, it was . . . 

Johnny Carson

Off season?

Bette Midler

Off season.  No, it was summer sessions.  So here I was in this ten story building, just me.

Johnny Carson

All by yourself?

Bette Midler

All by myself.  And it was a very unhappy experience for me.  I cried for seven days.  I was so lonely.

Johnny Carson

Awwww, so that's a step up in Chicago?

Bette Midler

Yeah, the "Y". (YWCA)

Johnny Carson

He's got you at the girls "Y"?

Bette Midler

Yeah, he has me at the "Y" this time.

Johnny Carson

That's a good manager.

Bette Midler

He's a Socko-Boffo manager.

Johnny Carson

Sounds like it.  "Where am I staying?"  "At the "Y"."  Are you really staying at the "Y"?

Bette Midler

Yes, I'm staying at the "Y".

Ed McMahon

You've got to be kidding.

Bette Midler

No, I'm not kidding.

Johnny Carson

What about a hotel?

Bette Midler

I can't afford it man.

Johnny Carson

Really?

Bette Midler

I don't know when I'm gonna be eating next, ya know?  I sock it away man.  You never can tell, the recession and all that stuff, times are hard.

Johnny Carson

Well, doesn't Mr. Kelly's pay . . . I don't want to inquire about your personal finances.

Bette Midler

They're being very kind to me, but I have a number of expenses, so I have to keep my expenses to a minimum.  And I'm not ashamed, I'm not proud.

Johnny Carson

There's nothing wrong with staying at the "Y".

Bette Midler

No.

Johnny Carson

I used to stay at the "Y".

Bette Midler

My father always told me, "now wherever you go, you stay at the "Y" because you won't get into any trouble in the "Y"."  They don't let men in the "Y".

Johnny Carson

Is your father pretty strict?

Bette Midler

My father is an Aries on the cusp of Taurus.

Johnny Carson

Ohhh!  No wonder you're staying at the "Y".

Bette Midler

That is one of the heaviest cuspings you can be, 'cause it's very wiggy.  He's wonderful though, he taught me everything I know. He said, "now always save a buck." That's what he said.  I still have that buck. (laughs)

Johnny Carson

What are you gonna do after you save all this loot?

Bette Midler

I'm gonna show it to him. And make him proud of me.

Johnny Carson

Yeah?

Bette Midler

Yes. He comes from the old school of thinking.

Johnny Carson

Right.

Bette Midler

I used to put him down for it, you now.  I was one of those kids who was extremely rebellious when I was an adolescent.  I put him down for everything.  Put my mother down too.  But in the past 5 years, being on my own, I have discovered that most of what they told me was good sense.

Johnny Carson

Mark Twain has a famous remark. He says, "when a a boy is 16 he can't imagine how dumb his father is, but by the time that same boy is 21, he is amazed to learn what the old man has learned in 5 years."

Bette Midler

(laughs)

Johnny Carson

That's about what you're saying, right?

Bette Midler

Exactly.

Johnny Carson

Alrighty, on that pithy homily, or homily pith, whatever it is, one of those . . . 


[END OF INTERVIEW]


The following is a segment from Sandy Baron's interview where Bette had another chance to interact with Johnny. We're not sure what exactly Sandy Baron was talking about prior to this moment, as that audio has not been made available to this site, if indeed it even exists. 

Sandy Baron

Yeah, it makes you attune to your body Bette.

Bette Midler

Humm, oh yes.

Johnny Carson

Ahh, yes.  Why did you choose Bette?

Sandy Baron

I don't know John.  It's strange.

Johnny Carson

Yes it is.

Bette Midler

I'm the only body up here . . . ooooo.

Johnny Carson

Where ya from Bette? I forgot to ask you, did I?

Bette Midler

Yeah, we did that last time. Honolulu, Hawaii.

Johnny Carson

That's right. You worked in a pineapple factory.

Bette Midler

That's right.

Johnny Carson

She worked canning pineapples!


INTERESTING FACTS

Bette remained on the panel after her interview with Johnny, she was present for Sandy Baron's comedy routine and interview.  

Carson states her Mr. Kelly's opening is October 12th, but all research up to this point shows that Bette opened on October 16th.

This is the latest Carson appearance where the paperwork from the Library Of Congress is not available.