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The Tonight Show 
December 16, 1970
 

GUESTS

Lew Burke and Buddy, B. J. Thomas, 
Dick Shawn, Bette Midler, Kreskin

PROGRAM TIME

11:30 p.m. to 1:00 a.m.

INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT

The footage from this appearance apparently no longer exists.  However, thanks to a very clever fan back in the early days, an audio recording made from the television broadcast does remain.  Although that recording can not be shared here on this website, below you will find a written transcript from this appearance documenting what was said and performed during this show.

Johnny Carson

How are ya this evening?

Bette Midler

Oh. [gives Ed a kiss] Oh, you get one too. [gives Johnny a kiss]

Johnny Carson Yes, I get one too.  What'd you think of our performing dog?

Bette Midler I thought he was very bright, actually.  He's a lot brighter than I am, at times.  He's very, he's a nice dog, you know.  He's very affectionate.  I use to think those German Shepard's - this is a generalization a lot of people make - I use to think German Shepard's were very mean.  But he's just so sweet.  I mean when you look at him and he rolls over, you know, which dogs don't generally do.   

Ed McMahon No.

Johnny Carson I guess they don't unless you tell them.

Bette Midler That's nice.  That's nice for you to look at someone and . . .

Johnny Carson You didn't tell him to roll over?

Bette Midler No, I didn't tell him to.  It's nice, isn't that nice when you just look at someone or something and they just roll over?  I just think that's lovely. 

Johnny Carson Yes, that could be. [audience laughs]

Bette Midler Yes.

Johnny Carson That's like the cliché that bulldogs, you know, are . . . they say they're the most gentle dog in the world with children, a bulldog. 

Ed McMahon Right.

Bette Midler Yes.  Yes, well you know I was terrified of dogs for many many years.

Johnny Carson You were?

Bette Midler Until I met this Basset Hound.  [audience laughs]  I met this Basset Hound named Nancy Drew. [audience laughs]  She is a brilliant dog, she is just brilliant.  I don't know, she's like a human being, you know.  I was, I never got near dogs, because my mother always said, "now don't go near dogs."  So I never went near them, and I was always terrified of them until I met this Basset Hound.  And now we're very close, you know, we're very good friends.  And now I'm not afraid of dogs anymore.  What do you think of that?

Johnny Carson I think that's fine.  

Bette Midler [laughs]

Johnny Carson Do you see the dog often?

Bette Midler Yes, oh yes.  Yes.  Alternate Thursdays we have visiting days.  

Johnny Carson We had a . . . we had a big Basset out on the show in Los Angeles.  Do you remember?

Ed McMahon [inaudible]

Johnny Carson No, the one that was suppose to sing and never did sing.  

Ed McMahon No.

Bette Midler Ohhhh.

Johnny Carson Never sang at all, just sat there and looked sad.  What were you like as a child?

Bette Midler Me?

Johnny Carson Yeah.

Bette Midler Oh, I was very pervasious.  I had this thing when I was a child growing up.  I wanted to look like Annette Funicello.  And ah . . . [audience laughs]  No, for many years, you know I was a . . . 

Johnny Carson Did ya?

Bette Midler Yes, I . . . 

Johnny Carson Well she's a very attractive ah . . . 

Bette Midler Yes, she' a very . . . actually, she was . . . when she was young she was adorable.  I use to adore her. 

Johnny Carson So she still is young.

Bette Midler She, well . . . 

Johnny Carson How old could Annette Funicello me?

Bette Midler No, I'm talking about like when she was four eleven.

Johnny Carson Oh, you mean the Mickey Mouse club.  

Bette Midler When she was a Mouseketeer, oh yes.  

Johnny Carson Ohhh.

Bette Midler Yes.  I wanted to grow up to look like Annette Funicello.  I didn't quite succeed in all areas, but I made it past some of them.  [laughs]  

Johnny Carson You certainly did.

Bette Midler Yes I did.  Anyway . . . 

Johnny Carson Ahh, healthy youngster you are.  

Bette Midler Yes.

Johnny Carson You are, you are that.  

Bette Midler Yes I am.

Johnny Carson You still work in the steam bath?

Bette Midler Ahh, yes, I'm going back there. [music starts to play]

Johnny Carson That just means we're going to cut away.

Bette Midler Oh.  I'm going back for four weeks.  They picked up my option and I'm going back there for awhile.  

Johnny Carson Alright, and you're going to do a special number I understand tonight.

Bette Midler Yes.  We're all doing a special number tonight.

Johnny Carson Alright.

[commercial break]

Johnny Carson We're talking with Bette Midler.   Why did you decide on Bet, rather than say Betty?  

Bette Midler It was my mothers idea.  

Johnny Carson Yeah?

Bette Midler She always pronounced . . . she named me after Bette Davis.

Johnny Carson Ahhh.

Bette Midler And she always pronounced it Bet.  I never quite figured out if she meant it, if she knew, or if she was just guessing, you see.  'Cause I've met a lot of people who spell their name the way I do, but they always pronounce it Betty, instead of Bet.  

Johnny Carson It's just B E T T E?

Bette Midler Yeah, my mother says Bet, as in, you wanna make a bet?  I had to live through that one all through grammar school.  

Johnny Carson Is that what you had to put up with?

Bette Midler Oh yes, that's not all I had to put up with.  I put up with a great deal.

Johnny Carson What do you mean?

Bette Midler Oh, I don't know, I was this strange child, you know.  It's hard to be a Jewish girl from Honolulu, you know.

Johnny Carson We talked about that, you were from Honolulu.

Bette Midler Yes.  

Johnny Carson You worked in a pineapple canning factory once.    

Bette Midler Oh yes, I started working when I was very young, when I was sixteen years old.  My life was very strange in Honolulu.  You know, it's amazing, people always say to me, "how can a Jewish girl grow up in Honolulu?"  You know, it seems like a strange place for a Jewish girl to come from.  But I had the same kind of childhood that most people had, most people my age had living here.  You know, I liked the same things, I wore the same things.  I wore crinolines, you know, in the fifties.  I wore crinolines and I had pennies in my loafers.  And I had a boyfriend who wore white bucks, and had a pack of Camels rolled up in his t-shirt.    

Johnny Carson In the t-shirt, yes.  

Bette Midler Oh yes.  Yes.  I mean, it was the same thing for me to grow up in Honolulu as it was for anybody else to grow up anywhere else in the United States.  

Johnny Carson You know you look like you should have grown up in the thirties.

Ed McMahon Yeah.

Johnny Carson Your gestures.  Everything about you.  And I don't mean this patronizingly.

Bette Midler No, that's because . . . 

Johnny Carson It's an attitude.  You have a . . . 

Bette Midler That is something . . . see, I use to watch a lot of old movies.

Johnny Carson Yeah.

Bette Midler Yeah, and I use to, these women were constantly clutching at themselves, you know, they were always in pain, and constantly expressing it by a physical language, you know.

Johnny Carson Yeah.

Bette Midler And one day I just, it happened you know, I just started . . . posing, you know.

Johnny Carson It just kind of hung on, huh?

Bette Midler And expressing myself through a physical means, and I've been at it ever since. [laughs]  

Johnny Carson Well good, good.  

Ed McMahon Keep it up.

Johnny Carson No better way, yeah.  [laughs]  Expressing yourself through physical means.  

Ed McMahon [laughing]

Bette Midler Listen, you talk about the thirties.  I've been, you know I started out singing thirties songs.  

Johnny Carson That's right.

Bette Midler It took me two years to get out of the thirties.  I use to sing nothing but thirties songs, you know.  Thirties torch songs, you know, and clutch at myself while I would do them.  But I loved them.  But I'm getting out of that now, I'm getting a little further away from that. 

Johnny Carson What decade are you in now?

Bette Midler I have this 40's song that isn't quite ready, but I have this 50's song.  You see, when I was a kid I had this fantasy that I would have a group, that I'd have a vocal group, you know.  

Johnny Carson We started to talk about that last time but we never finished.  

Bette Midler Yeah, last time, remember?  Vocal groups. [Turns to Ed] You remember vocal groups?

Ed McMahon Sure.

Bette Midler They would sing syllables.  Oh, I had this fantasy, I had this group, the name of my group was Big Eyed Betty And The Bang Bangs.  [audience laughs]  Do you love it?  Isn't that wonderful?   

Johnny Carson Big Eyed Betty and the . . . 

Bette Midler And the Bang Bangs.

Johnny Carson Gracie?

Bette Midler Big Eyed Bette and the Bang Bangs, you will forgive me, sorry mom.  Humm.  Big Eyed Bette and the Bang Bangs.  But I never got that group.  

Johnny Carson Never got a group.

Bette Midler Well, my dear, you promised me last week.

Johnny Carson But I don't know what you're going to do.  I said we'd like to help.

Bette Midler Well, we're going to sing a little fifties number, and you're going to help me.

Johnny Carson We'll be the Bang Bangs? 

Bette Midler You'll be the Bang Bangs!  Yeah!  You, you, and you, and maybe Doc Severinsen.

Ed McMahon He's a great Bang Bang [audience laughs]

Bette Midler Oh!

Johnny Carson Does he have . . . do you want him to come over here?

Bette Midler No, we can all line up over there if you'd like.

Johnny Carson Aren't you going to tell us what we have to do?

Bette Midler Oh, of course I will, soon as we get up on our feet boys.  Gentlemen!  Gentlemen!  

Johnny Carson Oh yes my little wild flower!

Bette Midler Alright gentlemen, oh the Bang Bangs, in size please, size placement please.  You on this end, oh aren't you cute.  Come along Mr. Carson, oh you're divine.  Yes.  A little further over, I am the star you know.  [audience laughs]  Yes.  Here we go.  Now then, gentlemen, the name of the song that we are about to sing is "Why Must I Be A Teenager In Love."  The introduction to this song goes just like this, now follow along with me.  Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop

Everyone Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop  [very badily]

Doc Severinsen Can we do that again?

Everyone Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop
Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop

Bette Midler Brilliant!  Now, that's all you have to sing except for the title line, which goes like this.  
Why must I be a teenager in love?  
Got that?  Wonderful!  Now, the thing is . . . 

Johnny Carson Do we do that?

Ed McMahon No, we don't do that.

Bette Midler Well, you don't have to, but this is what's going to happen.  Now, one of the things that was so remarkable about those fifties groups what they always . . . 

Ed McMahon Wooo-Wahha

Doc Severinsen Whop Whop.  You forgot the Whop Whop part.  

Bette Midler That's alright darling, you'll get into it.  They always had chorography. 

Ed McMahon Right.

Bette Midler Okay?  So here's your step, this is the step we're going to sing while we sing the Oooo's.  Ready?  Start on your right foot please. [starts dancing]  
Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop
    

Everyone [dancing]  Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop [audience applauds]

Bette Midler Brilliant!  Just brilliant!  Now, that's all we have to do, that's all we have to do.  Except that one other thing that was so remarkable about those groups was they always took poses.  I love poses.  So, whenever we sing the title line, why must I be a teenager in love, everybody has to get a pose and hit it.  [to Doc] Now here's a pose for you.  Now all you have to do is bend down on your knees like this.  This is your pose.  Okay?  Now whenever we sing that line, that's your pose.  [to Johnny] Okay, your pose Mr. Carson is this.  Up, ah, hands up in the air.

Johnny Carson Yeah.

Bette Midler Stay straight ahead.

Johnny Carson Yeah.

Bette Midler Straight ahead.  Hands up in the air as if you're pleading to God, you know.  

Doc Severinsen Yeah, baby!  [audience laughs]

Bette Midler Oh!  Alright.  Now, Ed McMahon . . . 

Doc Severinsen It's only when we go?

Bette Midler When . . . 

Ed McMahon The title song.

Bette Midler The title line.  Right!  Now your pose Mr. McMahon, your pose is this.  This is your pose.  [audience laughs]  Oh brilliant!  Oh brilliant!  Oh, aren't they heavy?  Now, you can get up now, yes.  Now listen, we're going to sing the song all the way through.
Johnny Carson Why must I be a teenager in love?

Bette Midler Yes.  

Doc Severinsen Whop Whop 

Bette Midler Right.  Now, I get to sing the end of the song myself. 

Johnny Carson Right.

Bette Midler Because I am the star, you know.  

Johnny Carson That's right.

Ed McMahon Of course. 

Bette Midler Yes, however, I will sing the line, the note, and you will come in at the end of the note, okay?

Johnny Carson Doing what?

Bette Midler Just . . . just a crescendo. 

Johnny Carson Humm.

Ed McMahon Oh.

Bette Midler A nice big crescendo.  He has to be so specific, my dear.  Alright, here we go, are we all ready?  Are we all together?  Lets get into a straight line please, get organized, start on your right foot.  Mmmm, Big Eyed Betty and the Bang Bangs!

Everyone Teenager In Love
(Doc Pomus, Mort Shuman)

Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop
Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop

Bette Midler Each night we have a quarrel
It almost breaks my heart
For I am so afraid 
One day we will have to part
Each night I ask the stars up above

Everyone Why must I be a teenager in love?

Bette Midler One day I feel so happy
The next day I'm feeling sad
Well I guess I'll learn to take 
The good with the bad
Each night I ask the stars up above

Everyone Why must I be a teenager in love?

Bette Midler I cried a tear 
For nobody but you
I'd be a lonely one 
If you should say we're through

Well, if you want to make me cry
That won't be so hard to do, baby
And if you should say goodbye
I'd still go on loving you
Each night I ask the stars up above


Everyone Why must I be a teenager in love?

Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop
Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop
Oooo-Wooo-Wahha-Ooooo Whop Whop Whop

Bette Midler Okay, this is the last note folks, I'm gonna take it.  Oh my nerves.  Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it.  The lead singer, who had the highest voice in the whole world, always took the last note.  He would go . . . [Bette sings last note] [Guys come in with crescendo] 

Johnny Carson Alright!  Betty and the Bang Bangs!

Bette Midler Oh, Betty and the Bang Bangs! 

Johnny Carson Oooo-Wooo-Woooow Wow Whop

Bette Midler Thanks gentlemen!

Johnny Carson That's exactly the way they sounded.  

Bette Midler Thank you.  Yes.

Johnny Carson They always had that little single mic.  

Bette Midler Thank you, that was so nice.  

Ed McMahon I'll be humming that melody for years.

Bette Midler [laughs]

Johnny Carson Yes, that'll go on your golden oldies.  

Ed McMahon Yes. 

Bette Midler Oh, I enjoyed that.  I really enjoyed that.

Johnny Carson You like that kind of stuff, huh?

Bette Midler Yes I did.  

Johnny Carson Alright.


INTERESTING FACTS

Big Eyed Betty And The Bang Bang's was part of Bette's act at The Continental Baths during this time.  She would often bring a few of the boys in the audience up on stage with her to be her Bang Bang's.  Bette would teach them the vocals and dance steps to "Teenager in Love" and then they would all perform the song together to the audience's delight.  This was often the highlight of those early shows at the Continental Baths, and become quite a highlight during this Tonight Show episode as well.      

Bette recorded "Teenager In Love" for her first album "The Divine Miss M," but the song never made it on to the final release.  

The Amazing Kreskin was also a guest on this episode. During Kreskin's act, which directly followed Bette Midler's, he performed a demonstration of the Power Of Suggestion. The network didn't want Kreskin to perform this as they felt it was too risky for possible injuries. However, Carson trusted Kreskin and wanted him to do it! Doc Severson and Ed McMahon assisted Johnny Carson to lay across two chairs. Carson's head was on one chair and his feet on the other, while his body remained stiff and levitated. Kreskin then had Bette Midler come out and sit on Carson's stomach. Obviously Bette trusted Kreskin as well.  Not only was no one harmed during this demonstration, but Carson would later say that Bette felt like there was just a little baby sitting on him.  (The photo to the right shows Kreskin placing Bette on Carson's stomach.)  

At the beginning of their conversation, Bette and Johnny speak about a performing dog. They are referring to Lew Burke and his dog Buddy who opened the show. 


THE TONIGHT SHOW PAPERWORK

It was with great amazement when it was discovered that the Library Of Congress in Washington, D.C. had papers in their archives for most of the Tonight Show episodes starting from October 17, 1970.  Upon learning this, the paperwork for all of the early episodes featuring Bette Midler were acquired. Since the Johnny Carson people claim many of these early episodes no longer exist, this paperwork may well be the only record of what took place.  Not only that, but this paperwork also gives insights and extra details into the existing episodes   


Broadcast Standards


Episode Run Sheet


Question Sheet


Johnny's Cue Card


Kreskin Paperwork


The Carson Papers document each night's show and the production material pertaining to guest interviews. Typed index cards contain introductory comments for use by Johnny Carson or a substitute host related to each guest. Linked to these cue cards are typed commentaries prepared by researchers from preliminary interviews with a guest outlining areas of interest to be discussed. Also with the file for each show is a listing of commercials, skits, guests, and network pauses in the sequence they occurred. A "Broadcast Standards Acceptability" report includes the names of guests, the host, sponsors, personalities and commercial products mentioned, and references which were censored and edited.  


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